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David Allingham (Dmallingham)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Dmallingham
Post Number: 1
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2003 - 7:58 pm: | |
Does anyone have a solution for freecell #32408 |
rachel cohen (Rachel)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Rachel
Post Number: 59
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 10:02 am: | |
Yes, I started with the column at right. |
Anonymous
| | Posted on Friday, April 25, 2003 - 6:25 pm: | |
Does anyone have a solution for game 1941? |
Heather Joohnston
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 4:21 pm: | |
Has anyone solved 1941? |
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Intermediate Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9
Post Number: 27
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 1:50 pm: | |
Yes 1941 is winnable. Freecells not really my game but I did manage to get it.
Ken |
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Intermediate Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9
Post Number: 28
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 06, 2005 - 2:05 pm: | |
Play column 1 to the reserve up to the 4d then play to clear three reserves. You can then play column three to the aces and clear it. Its not too bad from there.
Ken |
Patrick Kalinauskas (Amarande)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Amarande
Post Number: 1
Registered: 1-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2005 - 3:44 pm: | |
Even then, it's kinda annoying ...
Main trouble here, it seems to me, is that you have a severe lack of free space. This is one of the deals that requires all four freecells (it is not solvable with three), and it shows.
In many cases, a move that looks good, is illusory, and will really block the game; there is an enormous premium here on making sure sequences are kept below a certain size, due to cards of particular ranks and color being in bad positions preventing you from moving certain sequences well (especially the blocked black Jacks and Queens are particularly problematic here).
In standard notation, a solution -
#1941 Attempt: 7 NumFcs=4 (FCPro)
42 87 1d 15 3c 3b 3a 37 a3 8a
c8 1c 18 2h 5h c5 86 81 61 18
3c a3 73 7a 7h 5h 86 81 71 73
71 87 21 67 53 58 57 57 c8 68
4c 46 56 a5 45 25 28 4a c4 24
a2 1h 35 3h 53 1c 1h 12 d1 6d
6a 61 a1 d1 6d
One will note the huge number of stumbling blocks here - in many cases, it is tempting to move the 7D or QD and seems to improve matters but you will find that if you do, the game becomes unwinnable. (I used a solver every step of the way to see which moves become blind alleys ...)
It only really becomes simple once column 6 can be cleared (the 3C is another major problem, as it means the 5D must be kept for a lot longer; leaving no place in tableau for the 4C is to be avoided until extremely late, even though removing the 5D increases the mobility of some sequences that are in your way), and this doesn't happen for quite some time ...
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paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul
Post Number: 199
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, January 08, 2005 - 4:41 pm: | |
Hi
Game 1941 is generally recongised as the hardest game in the first 32000 games to win as 31999 of these can be won excluding the well known 11982
other very difficult ones are 454,661,718,6182
for easy games 164, 892 and 1012 can be won without using any of the free cells so you may want to try these as an antidote to the hard ones.
There is basically a 99.999 chance of winning a game as it has been worked out by computer that of the first 10 million game numbers only 126 are not solvable with the next unsolvable one being 146692
Good luck
Paul |
bigjdan
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 4:18 pm: | |
I finally finished the entire 32,000 sequence today (19 January 2005) having begun in mid-1998. Be warned! This excepts #11982 of course. For a long time I also believed #13304 was insoluble. The solution to #1941 took me from October 1998 to February 1999 to discover. A diary note from that time (I was so relieved at having cracked it) says that I abandoned any attempt to keep the game balanced, and concentrated simply on extracting the Hearts one after the other. It may be worth noting that it's often an effective technique to concentrate on extracting one red and one black suit ... |
David M. Blomert
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 19, 2005 - 7:45 pm: | |
My wife has been stuck on Free Cell # 418892193 for several days. If anyone has the solution I would appreciate hearing so I can get my wife back. Thanks |
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Intermediate Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9
Post Number: 30
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 3:48 pm: | |
Ive got the solution but im not familar with the method of writing it down.
Paul?
Ken |
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul
Post Number: 204
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 4:10 pm: | |
hI bigjdan
well done on finishing all of these
Paul |
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul
Post Number: 205
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 4:53 pm: | |
Hi ken and David
this is how I i did it
remember you must not finish the game but get to a move where it is easy to finish.Then keep pressing the undo button until you are back at the beginning
then redo each move and write it down
so for instance on this game which I have got to a winning position it is as follows
8h up ac to foundation 6d up as to foundation 2c to foundation 3c to foundation 10c up 2s to foundation 10c to space 9d to 10c 4c to foundation kc up jh to qs 10c & 9d to Jh kc to space 10d to jc qd to kc 2d up ah to foundation 2h to foundation 9h to 10s jc and 10d to qd 10s & 9h to space 4d to 5s 8d up 6d to space 5s & 4d to 6d 9s to 10d 8c to 9h 7d to 8c 8d to 9s 3d up 4s up qc to kh 3s to foundation 4s to foundation 7s to 8d js to qh jh&10c&9d to qc 6d&5s&4d to 7s qs to space ks to space qh&js to ks 4h to 5c qs to kd 7h to space 6s to 7d 6c to 7h ad to foundation 2d to foundation 3d to foundation jd to qs
you have now got both the black foundation up to the 4 the hearts to 2 and diamonds to 3 three empty spaces at the top and the fourth column empty so it should be easy from here
hope this helps
bye Paul |
Ken Blackwell (Blackie9)
Intermediate Solitaire Player
Username: Blackie9
Post Number: 31
Registered: 8-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 20, 2005 - 9:00 pm: | |
OK the best I can do. Here go's. 2h t0 space, 10s to spqce, 5s on 6d, 9s to space, 8c to 9d, js to space, 9s to 5th col, 3d to 4s, 8h to 9s, ac to found.,9h to space, 4d to 5s, 3c to 4d, 9h to 10 c, 8c to 9d, 4h to 3c, 4h to space, kd to space, 7c to 8h, 8s to 9d, 7d to 8s, qs to kh, 6h to 7c, ks to 2nd col, 7h to 8c, 6s to 7h, 6c to 7d, ad to found, jd to qc, 10s to jd, 5s-4d-3c-2h to6h, 6d to space, as to foundation, 2c to f, 10d to 4th col, qd to ks, 2d to f, ah to f, 3d to f, 2h to f, 3d to f, js to qd, 10d to js, 9s-8h-7c-6h-5s-4d to 10d, kh-qs-jd-10s to col 5, 9d-8s-7d-6c-to 10s, 4c to f, 4d to f, 4h to 5s, 9c to 4th col, 5d to 6s, 3h to f, 9c to 10h, 5d to f...etc..
hope that works
ken |
K Thomas
Unregistered guest
| | Posted on Monday, February 21, 2005 - 5:30 am: | |
Has anyone managed to solve game #386377217 - i have been stuck on this for some days
Thanks |
Nathan Boldt
Unregistered guest
Posted From: 12.170.210.156
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 9:22 pm: | |
i just saw someone beat 126 on their first try.
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smokn
Unregistered guest
Posted From: 68.145.98.196
| | Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2005 - 9:45 pm: | |
#6182 Adrian Ettlinger
6d 5c 6b 65 56 5a b5 45 c4 3c
37 32 31 38 87 3b 38 a3 63 68
64 b6 38 28 58 5b 52 c5 b5 3c
76 73 73 57 75 7b c7 b7 27 36
3h 2c 27 87 8h 2b 2a b2 a2 12
3b 3h 41 43 43 47 4a 4h b4 64
6h 46 a4 c4 8h 8h 5h 82 8c 8b
83 81 41 53 b4 c4 84 d5 15 13
1a
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Cliff Smith
Unregistered guest
Posted From: 80.43.28.231
| | Posted on Friday, April 08, 2005 - 10:25 am: | |
Can anybody give me clues on how to win game 617
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michellefisher
Unregistered guest
Posted From: 4.228.54.227
| | Posted on Monday, May 16, 2005 - 10:51 pm: | |
are all games of free cell winnable?
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paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul
Post Number: 250
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 12:21 pm: | |
Hello Michelle
no but well over 99.99% can be won
the earliest unsolvable one is the famous 11982 the next unsolvable one is 146692
Paul |
Alan Hoffman
Unregistered guest
Posted From: 68.6.179.122
| | Posted on Monday, July 18, 2005 - 10:31 pm: | |
I'm really glad I ran across this board. I've been a Freecell addict for several years now, and was looking for the "toughest" ones to solve. This board gave me 1941, which took about 90 mins and 10-15 tries before I figured it out, and 13304, which I somehow managed to crack on my first try.
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Someone
Unregistered guest
Posted From: 220.253.103.183
| | Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 1:41 am: | |
What is the easiest number to solve
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paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul
Post Number: 256
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 5:05 pm: | |
Hello
it is probably one of these as all can be won without using even 1 of the 4 cells
164 892 1012 1081 1150 1529 2508 2514 3178 3225
Paul |
Someone
Unregistered guest
Posted From: 220.253.103.183
| | Posted on Friday, August 12, 2005 - 3:55 am: | |
Thankyou paul
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Timothy Aster (Timaster)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Timaster
Post Number: 3
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 9:09 pm: | |
Hi
Just joined Goodsol and wondered why no posts about Freecell for 4 months?? I hope interest is not waning because I'm 3/4 way thru writing an in-depth book on the subject! Am not an expert by any reckoning - just a Freecell addcit with time on my hands between jobs. A few comments on recent(?) posts:
Re very hard deals:
I think 1941 only has one basic solution, though there are variations on it. It can be solved in 36 moves, possibly fewer though I've yet to find a way of shortening it. For me it certainly isn't the hardest, 21491 holds that honour for the time being.
Re 6182 (smokn, March 31):
Adrian Ettlinger's solution certainly wins the game, but it can be solved much more neatly (58 moves instead of 81):
56 5a 5b 5c 53 52 c2 65 62 6c
b6 c6 26 2b 1c 14 12 1d 12 13
d1 c1 72 78 7h 7c 7d a7 d7 b7
5a 5b c5 35 32 37 31 82 3c 38
43 43 46 4d 4h b4 a4 8a 8b 83
d3 8d 81 61 23 28 6c 64
Re FC 418892193 (Dave, Jan 19), one solution is:
65 6a 6b 6c 6d c6 b6 36 56 23
2b 26 26 21 2c 26 76 d2 b2 72
7b 75 76 a6 b7 27 4a 4b 47 c4
8c 87 82 82 54 58 58 5d 57 37
32 a3 d5 45 4a 42 4d d4 14 14
54 c5 15 12 38 3c
Re FC 386377217 (K Thomas, 21 Feb), one solution is:
76 8a 86 7b 87 37 1c 17 3d 36
35 85 38 18 31 78 b8 a3 53 5a
58 57 38 d3 a3 75 7a c7 a7 63
64 61 67 62 27 37 15 41 21 43
Re easy deals:
Max number of free cells needed to get a solution is one way of measuring difficulty, but it's not always the most meaningful. Ultimately it comes down to how much mental effort is needed to win it, and this will vary greatly between different players (it depends on how your mind works). I still think the easiest game is 2217, but that's me! I think it needs 2 free cells, but that's not the point. To me, whenever you make a move, the next one is immediately obvious - ergo very little mental effort needed.
How about a few more posts before 2006!
Tim Aster
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paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul
Post Number: 286
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 12:09 pm: | |
Hi Tim
you may be interested in this
these are all the unwinnable games in the first 10 million games 11982, 146692, 186216, 455889, 495505, 512118, 517776, 781948, 1155215, 1254900, 1387739, 1495908, 1573069, 1631319, 1633509, 1662054, 2022676, 2070322, 2166989, 2167029, 2501890, 2607073, 2681284, 2712622, 2843443, 2852003, 2855691, 2923820, 3163790, 3172889, 3194539, 3217820, 3225183, 3366617, 3376982, 3402716, 3576395, 3595299, 3878212, 3946538, 4055965, 4207758, 4266168, 4269635, 4324282, 4334954, 4440758, 4446355, 4765843, 4863685, 4910222, 5046726, 5050537, 5086829, 5225172, 5244797, 5260342, 5401675, 5478410, 5611185, 5672090, 5817697, 6020049, 6099064, 6100919, 6234527, 6314799, 6332629, 6416342, 6749792, 6761220, 6768658, 6844210, 6895558, 6898316, 7035805, 7261039, 7334559, 7360592, 7400819, 7484159, 7497878, 7530003, 7536454, 7705172, 7748399, 7777900, 7795097, 7801943, 7814345, 7825750, 7863486, 7887312, 7923001, 7965413, 8000527, 8046431, 8076134, 8104908, 8105324, 8114984, 8119415, 8121228, 8237732, 8267373, 8354257, 8381178, 8527378, 8608154, 8712426, 8719444, 8736337, 9093368, 9110337, 9190487, 9222830, 9262134, 9414989, 9415104, 9435589, 9452398, 9626317, 9647001, 9660366, 9747437, 9771903, 9830419, 9855268, 9861848, 9917279
also game 18492 if you play these moves you get into a unusual and possible unique position as you can leave it till the last minute to put any ace up
4a 47 6b 46 86 4c 43 56 5d 53
52 b5 8b 84 18 14 14 17 a7 54
85 83 82 c3 b3 78 7a 7b 74 7c
78 58 d7 a7 37 35 1a 31 13 1d
a1 d1 31 41 31 38 21 2a 2d 25
b4 24 c4 34 35 26 d3 23 87 85
a2 42 34 42 65
regarding easy games these can all be one without using a single freecell
164, 892, 1012, 1081, 1150, 1529, 2508, 2514, 3178, 3225, 3250, 4929, 5055, 5152, 5213, 5300, 5814, 5877, 5907, 6749, 6893, 7018, 7058, 7167, 7807, 8355, 8471, 8961, 9998, 10772, 11863, 11987, 12392, 12411, 12676, 13214, 13464, 13532, 14014, 14624, 14826, 15140, 15196, 17772, 17871, 18026, 18150, 18427, 19951, 20533, 21657, 21900, 22663, 23328, 24176, 24919, 25001, 25904, 26719, 27121, 27853, 28856, 30329, 30418, 30584, 30755, 30849, 31185, and 31316
good luck with book
regards Paul |
Timothy Aster (Timaster)
Junior Solitaire Player
Username: Timaster
Post Number: 4
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 5:53 pm: | |
Paul -
Many thks for your reply to my post. Some of those unwinnable ones are listed by Michael Keller (Solitaire Lab), but I'm not sure if he found them (with computer assistance of course) or whether he was just passing them on.
I have done a 52-card flourish solution to 18492, but it's a little longer than the one you gave.
Thanks too for comment re book, I hope to try and interest a publisher some time in new year.
All the best,
Tim
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Timothy Aster (Timaster)
Junior Solitaire Player
Username: Timaster
Post Number: 5
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 10:58 pm: | |
To all Freecell buffs (Trying to stir up some activity!):
No.14720822 is special in that it is the first deal (starting at 1 and working up) that is unsolvable, not only with 4 free cells, but with 5. I have a solution using 6 free cells, but it only just needs 6. I don't actually place cards in all six cells but the sixth cell is needed once during the solution to enable a two-card move to be made with 5 cells occupied.
My solution has 57 moves, can anyone do it in less?
Tim
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Timothy Aster (Timaster)
Junior Solitaire Player
Username: Timaster
Post Number: 6
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Friday, December 23, 2005 - 8:12 am: | |
Re: post by Patrick Kalinauskas (Amarande), 08 Jan 2005.
I am interested in your post and solution to 1941, and would like to make mention of it in my book on Freecell. The solution you give is rather inefficient at 65 moves, but this probably comes from relying on a solver (when I re-played it, I inadvertently made a slightly different move near the end which immediately shortened it by 4 moves).
This deal can be solved in 36 moves, though my own solution has 37 which is the one I will describe in the book. But in mentioning your solution, I certainly don't intend to criticize it for being much longer than necessary. What particularly interests me is that it separates the jacks in column 2, and uses them in sequences - I didn't think that was possible. I'd like to express my gratitude for being shown a solution that separates the jacks, even though it is longer than necessary.
Tim Aster
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Danny A. Jones
Unregistered guest
Posted From: 209.142.12.122
| | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 5:12 pm: | |
Here is a 35-move solution to deal #1941.
#00001941 Attempt: 1 NumFcs=4 (BFS Multi) 35 moves
1a 87 3b 3c 15 3d 37 83 b8 73
4h 5h 15 16 81 7b 7h 71 73 71
21 87 5h 53 58 5h d8 51 75 65
68 67 6d 41 47
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Danny A. Jones
Unregistered guest
Posted From: 209.142.12.122
| | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 8:22 pm: | |
A short solution to deal #14720822.
#14720822 Attempt: 1 NumFcs=6 (Hrn Multi) 37 moves
1a 7b 17 16 1c 1d 1e 3f 51 53
57 c5 d5 1c 4d 47 45 c4 75 41
2c 72 75 47 84 f7 5h 36 3f 3h
37 d7 85 38 23 82 54
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Danny A. Jones
Unregistered guest
Posted From: 209.142.12.122
| | Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 8:43 pm: | |
A short solution to deal #6182.
#00006182 Attempt: 1 NumFcs=4 (Hrn Multi) 44 moves
56 7a 78 7b 7c 75 57 27 2d bh
5b 5h ah 7h 5h 1a 14 12 d7 57
45 45 8d 81 85 c5 25 27 12 4c
48 47 c7 84 8c dh 68 34 3d 32
6d 63 68 2h
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Timothy Aster (Timaster)
Junior Solitaire Player
Username: Timaster
Post Number: 10
Registered: 12-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 9:59 am: | |
Dannny -
I'm impressed with some of your neat solutions. My solution to 14720822 (56 moves) is:
2a 2b 2c 27 32 3d 63 36 b3 67
6b 6e 65 25 21 a2 62 52 36 3a
32 42 a4 c4 72 82 8a 73 76 e6
8c 8e 83 b3 58 56 c6 5b 5c a5
15 1a c1 46 41 74 71 d1 73 78
e8 47 4c 43 17 15
When I worked this out, I found that it only just needs a sixth free cell: at move 14 two cards are moved with 5 cells occupied. A similar thing happens at move 25, but this move would be possible with only 5 free cells, by swapping the 5S & 8H between free cell and column 3. I therefore tried to see a way round this - to see if it could be solved with 5 free cells after all, but without success.
Your 6182 solution is also impressive, any luck with 57148 and 739671? My solutions to these are 77 and 61 moves respectively, but I know that 57148 can be solved in under 60 moves.
Best wishes
Tim Aster
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Danny A. Jones
Unregistered guest
Posted From: 209.142.12.122
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 12:55 pm: | |
Tim,
The solutions for 31465, 57148, and 739671 are in my latest posting to message thread:
Freecell 617 is it winnable
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Robert C. Murray
Unregistered guest
Posted From: 66.138.29.54
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 12:43 pm: | |
Can someone post a solution to #57148? Game # 11982 can be "won" by moving the "bug-3S" from column 3 to column 4.
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paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul
Post Number: 302
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 4:20 pm: | |
HI Robert
game 57148
with help from Danny's solution
qd to space jd to space 4h to space 4s to space 7d to 8s 6s to 7d qd to kc 2h to 3c 9c to space 5d to 6s 4s to 5d jc to qd 10d to jc 9s to 10d 2s to space 6h to 7c qc to kd jd to qc 5s to 6h 4h to 5s 3c & 2h to 4h 9c to 10h 5d& 4s to 6c 4c to space 8s 7d 6s to 9h
as out
2s out jh to space 7d 6s to 8c 8s to space 9h to space 5h to 6s 4c to 5h 4d to space 3s out 8s to 9d qh to space 10c to jd 9h to 10s 9d 8s to 10c
ac out
10h 9c to col 8 7h to 8s 4d to 5c 6c 5d 4s to 7h jh to qs 10s 9h to jh 5c 4d to 6d qs jh 10s 9h to col 2 3h to 4c 6d 5c 4d to col 5
ad out
qd jh 10d 9s to col3 kc to space 2c out 2d out 8d to 9s
ah out
easy from here
paul |
Robert C. Murray
Unregistered guest
Posted From: 66.138.29.54
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 5:38 pm: | |
Hello Paul,
Thank you very much! I have now won the game after many attempts. A comment on your solution. The third row from the bottom which starts with "qd" has an error in it. The second item in the row should be "jc" rather than "jh".
If you have an EMAIL address, or a mailing address, I would like to have it for possible future use.
Regards,
Bob
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paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul
Post Number: 303
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 11:38 am: | |
Hi
email address is pondpaul@hotmail.com
glad you won it
cheers Paul |
Mae Bradshaw (Kitten)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Kitten
Post Number: 1
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 5:02 pm: | |
Hi Paul,
I need your help.!!
I have played several games in the Yukon series of Pretty good solitaire but I cannot seem to win any of the games in this new edition 10.? of OUTBACK.
Before I switched to the 10 version I had the version 7 and I won a few times but this game with any of the numbers does not seem winnable.
The highest score that I have reached is on game# 732298817.....There has to be at least one of these that a player can win. I have played it over 200 times. Can you help me? |
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul
Post Number: 306
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 5:23 pm: | |
Hi Mae
good news
i have won game 1515648128 and can give you the moves or some of them if you get stuck
regards Paul |
Mae Bradshaw (Kitten)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Kitten
Post Number: 2
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 11:06 pm: | |
Paul,
Thank you for your reply to my cry for help.
Yes I would very much like to have your help on moves for Outback.
Iam wondering if others are having any luck or trouble with the OUTBACK game in the Yukon series of Pretty Good solitaire?
I sure wish this game had at least one redeal.
Kitten |
paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul
Post Number: 307
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2006 - 5:11 am: | |
Hi Kitten
here are the first 50 moves for 1515648128
if you need the rest please let me know
remember you can move cards back from the foundations and you need to do this a couple of times after the stock is empty and also you should not go above 12 in the waste at anytime
good luck
Paul
ad out, 10h col 5 to jh, ad out, 2d out,js col 1 to qs, qs col 7 to ks, kh to space, qh col 2 to kh , as out, ah out, 2s out,jh col 1 to qh,3c col 4 to 4c, ac col 8 to 2c, 8d col 2 to 9d , 7s col 3 to 8s, 3c col 1 to 4c, 5h col 4 to 6h , 9d col 3 (not the top 9d but the one 10 cards down) to 10d, 4d col 7 to 5d , kc col 4 to space, ac oot, 2c out ,4h col 3 to 4h, 9c waste to 10c ,deal 3s, 3s out, deal 2h, 2h out, deal 7c8c col 4 to 9c, 6c col 8 to 7c , deal 4s, 4s out, deal jc, jc to qc, 10c col3 to jc, deal 5s, 5s out, deal 7d deal 8s, deal 5d deal 6d, deal ah , ah out, deal 6s, 6s out, deal 7h deal 7s, 7s out deal ac, ac out |
Robert C. Murray
Unregistered guest
Posted From: 66.138.29.54
| | Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 5:20 pm: | |
As you know, Microsoft has acknowledged there is a “Bug” in game 11982. The “Bug” is the 3 of spades and it should be located as shown below.
Reader Thierry of France discovered this method of correcting the “Bug”.
1. Start game #11982.
2. Move the 2-of-hearts onto the 3-of-spades.
3. Press the F3 key to start a new game.
4. Quit the game, but type in 11982 as the new game to start.
5. Press the F10(undo) key.
The computer remembers that the last move was from column 5 to column 4, and it thinks it was the 3 of spades and moves it to column 5. The “Bug” has now been removed and the game looks as shown below. Following it are the moves needed to “win” the game.
AH AS 4H AC 2D 6S TS JS
3D 3H QS QC 8S 7H AD KS
KD 6H 5S 4D 9H JH 9S 3C
JC 5D 5C 8C 9D TD KH 7C
6C 2C TH QH 6D TC 4S 7S
JD 7D 8H 9C 2H QD 4C 5H
KC 8D 2S 3S
#11982 Bob Murray
The following are the required moves.
24 78 2A 2B 2C 2D 28 B8 A2 1A
1B 12 16 C2 1C 17 5H 87 82 A1
61 2H 72 6A 61 A6 7H 8A 84 83
D3 54 56 5D 56 58 B5 7B 71 75
D5 65 31 C7 3C 34 31 37 3H AH
57 27 C2 8A 85 42 45 85 25 46
41 A1 B2 42 62 62
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Thomas Warfield (Support)
Moderator
Username: Support
Post Number: 986
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 7:16 pm: | |
Robert,
I am not aware that Microsoft has acknowledged that there is a bug in game 11982. If someone at Microsoft told you that, I think you've been a bit deceived by them.
What you have discovered is not a bug in version 11982, but a bug in the Microsoft FreeCell game in general. It does not matter which game you use, you can duplicate the bug. For example:
1. Start game #9.
2. Move the 2 of clubs on the 3 of diamonds.
3. Press the F3 key to start a new game.
4. Quit the game, but type in 9 as the new game to start.
5. Press the F10 (undo) key.
This also moves a card as in your example.
What is clearly happening here is that Microsoft FreeCell is not clearing its undo stack when doing a new game. It is keeping the undo from the previous game when you start a new game. This is a bug, but it has nothing to do with game 11982. It happens with any game.
What you are doing with game 11982 is simply creating a new (and invalid) starting position for the game. It happens that this invalid starting position is winnable while the normal (valid) starting position for 11982 is unwinnable.
You are not "correcting" a bug in any sense of the word, you are just using the bug to create a completely new position that is winnable. It does not solve game #11982, nor is there any "bug" in game #11982. The game position in 11982 is generated correctly according to the random number and shuffle algorithm that Microsoft FreeCell uses. This algorithm is also used by Pretty Good Solitaire, but you can't use this trick in Pretty Good Solitaire because there is no undo stack bug.
If someone at Microsoft told you about this trick, it is probably to save face for the clear error in the FreeCell help file, where it says "It is believed (although not proven) that every game is winnable.", which is clearly untrue (it is not believed that every game is winnable and some games have been proven unwinnable).
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Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Seelhoff
Post Number: 270
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 4:11 pm: | |
[bump - for Hello, new to site and pretty new to FreeCell thread]
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Doug Washburn (Doug)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Doug
Post Number: 1
Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 2:28 pm: | |
Has anyone won deal 1805738368? It is the first deal in over 16,000 wins that I have been unable to win! Could just be having a bad day. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 883
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 5:37 am: | |
I must be having a bad day too Doug. Unable to get past a score of 5. The two black jacks at the bottom of two columns are seperated from both red queens by 5 and 6 cards respectively. This is the death knell I fear. |
Doug Washburn (Doug)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Doug
Post Number: 2
Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Monday, June 25, 2007 - 1:22 pm: | |
At least we are not alone, Richard. I am hoping someone on here will know definitively if this deal is impossible or just very difficult. |
Larry Dale (Lars)
Junior Solitaire Player
Username: Lars
Post Number: 5
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, June 26, 2007 - 8:20 am: | |
Doug
Here is a solution for freecell 1805738368.
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Doug Washburn (Doug)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Doug
Post Number: 3
Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 11:21 am: | |
Thank you, Larry! |
Doug Washburn (Doug)
Junior Solitaire Player
Username: Doug
Post Number: 4
Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 12:47 pm: | |
Larry:
I just realized I do not understand the notation used in the attached solution. Where should I be looking for an explanation?
Doug. |
Mike Butler (Butler77)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Butler77
Post Number: 164
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 27, 2007 - 1:56 pm: | |
Doug. Richard usually does this but I will try to explain. 1. Right click on the solution. A box will appear 2. Click on the "copy shortcut" line. 3. Stay on-line with PGS. You can leave this part of the forum. 4. Open Freecell or whatever game you are playing. 5. Go to the top of the page and you will see "Game" in the area on the top left. 6. Left click on "Game" and some options will come up. 7. Left click on the one that says "Open Game". 8. Right click in the space where it says "File Name". You will then paste in the file you just copied. Then 9. Left click "Open" and the file will open. Good luck and let me know if you have problems. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 889
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 5:39 am: | |
Well done Larry. I missed the early moves in the game, and as usual with Freecell,getting a few cards onto the foundations makes the game easier and easier as it progresses. Very well done. |
Doug Washburn (Doug)
Junior Solitaire Player
Username: Doug
Post Number: 5
Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 1:43 pm: | |
Mike:
After following your instructions, I received a message "The game file opened is not a saved Free Cell game". I must be missing something.
Doug.
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 891
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 2:18 pm: | |
../18/FreeCell_ 1805738368-3538.unk
This is what you have to paste into the box where it says "file name". Just highlight it and do a copy and paste job.
The link works, because I've tried it. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 892
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 2:25 pm: | |
CORRECTION, I've just learned something new. You have to left click on the above link. It will open a file and show this link in the address bar. However when you left click on it there, it alters slightly, and it's this altered link that you must copy and paste.
Sorry for any confusion. |
Doug Washburn (Doug)
Junior Solitaire Player
Username: Doug
Post Number: 6
Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 2:47 pm: | |
Richard:
I still received the same error message. I also noticed no change after left clicking on the address bar.
Doug. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 893
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 4:29 pm: | |
Hi Doug, This whole download thing is a pain. I've lost count of how many times I've tried to help players play uploaded games.
Firstly you're right about the link remaining the same.Serves me right for not expanding the window.
OK you've copied the link. Your half way home.
STAY ONLINE. You're just going to run it on a PGS computer initially.
Open PGS on your desktop. Then locate "Freecell" in the long list of games, and click to open that.
Once you have a Freecell game dealt out on your screen, click on "Game" top left of screen. Now click on "Open game" in the small list of options.
Paste the link into the box called "file name" and then click "Open".
The game will run. You can then go back to the top left of your screen and click "game" followed by "Save as". You now have a copy on your PC. |
Mike Butler (Butler77)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Butler77
Post Number: 167
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 6:58 pm: | |
Hi Doug. I agree with Richard (which does happen sometimes). Remember to stay online. I had the same problem you are having at first. The "copy shortcut" worked for me. Then paste it in the "Open File" box. |
Thomas Warfield (Support)
Moderator
Username: Support
Post Number: 1151
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 9:39 am: | |
Actually, that error message indicates that the link copied just fine. The problem is that the game file is failing some checks when it is loaded. The game cannot verify that the file is a FreeCell game, it could be a file from some other game.
This error could happen if you are trying to load a saved file of a game of Eight Off, for example, into FreeCell. It could also happen if you are trying to load a game saved in Pretty Good Solitaire with FreeCell Wizard, as some things in the saved game wouldn't match.
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Doug Washburn (Doug)
Junior Solitaire Player
Username: Doug
Post Number: 7
Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 11:00 am: | |
I am now getting an invalid file message. And, yes, I am using FreeCell Wizard. Here are the steps I am taking:
1. Copy the link provided by Richard.
2. Leaving this forum site open, I bring up my locally installed FreeCell Wizard and open my problem deal.
3. Click on Game, Open Game, paste the link and click Open.
The error message then appears. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 895
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 12:32 pm: | |
Hi Doug,
This step has got me messed up. " 2. Leaving this forum site open, I bring up my locally installed FreeCell Wizard and open my problem deal".
You can close the forum, but must remain online.
Just follow the instructions.You have no need to
complicate it further.No wizards or wizardry required. Just go into PGS as you normally would and open Freecell. It will open up with the last game you played as it always does. Paste in the link now. This will not affect your stats in any way. Once you play the online game it will record it as a win for that game number regardless if you still had it half way finished beforehand.
Don't give up on this. We will get it sorted.
Richard. |
Thomas Warfield (Support)
Moderator
Username: Support
Post Number: 1152
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 12:48 pm: | |
Doug,
If you are using FreeCell Wizard, then loading the saved game isn't going to work unless you do the following:
1) Save the .pgs game file from the forum somewhere on your hard drive.
2) Open the .pgs game file in a text editor (such as Windows Notepad).
3) The first line of the file will be a "1," (a one and a comma, followed by another number. Change the "1," to "11," (that is, change the one to a eleven).
4) Save the .pgs file in the text editor.
5) Then you can load the game file in FreeCell Wizard.
Game files saved in Pretty Good Solitaire simply aren't compatible with FreeCell Wizard unless you do this.
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Mike Butler (Butler77)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Butler77
Post Number: 171
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Friday, June 29, 2007 - 4:02 pm: | |
I'm sorry. I didn't notice you were in Freecell Wizard. I am glad Thomas is here to straighten things out. |
Doug Washburn (Doug)
Junior Solitaire Player
Username: Doug
Post Number: 8
Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, July 05, 2007 - 12:51 pm: | |
Thomas:
The .pgs file already showed "11," in the first line when I save and opened it. I am still getting the invalid file message when I attempt to open it in the Wizard.
Doug. |
Thomas Warfield (Support)
Moderator
Username: Support
Post Number: 1153
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Friday, July 06, 2007 - 9:48 am: | |
OK, I got it backwards then. Change the "1" to an "11".
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 919
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Friday, July 06, 2007 - 10:12 am: | |
Thomas I think you just got it backwards again. Did you mean "Change the 11 to a 1"? |
Thomas Warfield (Support)
Moderator
Username: Support
Post Number: 1156
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 9:43 am: | |
No, I think it's right this time. In any case, he needs to change it from what it is now to what it isn't.
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Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 933
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 4:40 pm: | |
"Change the "1," to "11," (that is, change the one to a eleven)".
"OK, I got it backwards then. Change the "1" to an "11"".
I suspect Thomas meant to tell you to change the "11" into a "1" Doug. Try that anyway. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 934
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 5:04 pm: | |
Hi Doug, Persevere with Thomas's instructions as you will probably need to use an uploaded game again, but here is Larry's solution written out for you. It's quite tedious and mistakes may occur, so think you'll understand why I don't do this often.
8S out,4H up,2C up,JC up,JS up,6H over,2C down,9S up,5C over,4H down,9C up,5H over,10S+9D over, AD+2D out,8C over,7H over,5H over,6S over,3D out,3S over, 2S+3S out,4D+5D out,3C over,2H over, 9C down,6S up,8H over,7H over,6S down,5H over,8C up,9D over,8C down,10S up,JH over,10S down,5H over,7S over,6D out,5H over,2C over,8C up,9D over,8C down,10C up,7D OVER,6C over,5H over,2C down,KD up. It shouldn't be difficult from here. |
Ann Baker (Acb251961)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Acb251961
Post Number: 1
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 10:02 pm: | |
Please help me solve game #31212.
Thanks |
Wim van Velsen (Wim_van_velsen)
Solitaire Player
Username: Wim_van_velsen
Post Number: 19
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 4:38 am: | |
Ann,
Free cell #31212 is winnable. Try this solution:
10S-7D-2S-6D-QH-3C-10C-3S-8D-7S-6D-JC-3D-6S-2H-3D- 4D- now play 5D to 6S -JS-5C-7D-2H-3C-4H- play 3C from foundation to 4H -2H-JS-QC-QS-JD-6H-4C-3H-QH+JC-KS-4S-KS-QH+JC-QC+J D-10C-KH- 10D to JC -7C+6H-KH-QC+JD+JS-9D and from here it's easy to win.
Grtz, Wim |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1121
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 4:58 am: | |
Hi Ann, Here is one solution for your game.
10C up (to cell), AC out(to foundations), QH up,3C over, AH up, 10S up, 7D up, 2+3S out, AD out,8D over,7S over,6D over,QH down (from cell), JC over, 2H over, 2,3,4,5.6D out, 3S out, 7D from cell out,JS up,5C over, 7H over, 6S over, KH into space,QC over,10D over,7S over,8D out,9C over, 7S over,QS over, JD over, 10S down,4H+3C+2H over (as a group), 7C up, KC+QD into space, jS down,9D over,AH+2H out,5H over,JD+10S+9D over,8C over, 10H over,9C+8H+7S over,JH over,9S over, KD+QS+JH into space, 10C down, 9H over, 8S+7H+6S+5H over, 4H+3C+2H over,7C down,6H+5C over,4C over,3H out,QH+JC+10D+9S over, KS up. Game over.
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Ann Baker (Acb251961)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Acb251961
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 11:49 pm: | |
Wow! Thanks. Now how about game #23444? I love this site. |
Wim van Velsen (Wim_van_velsen)
Solitaire Player
Username: Wim_van_velsen
Post Number: 20
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 2:00 am: | |
Hi Ann, #23444 is rather easy to win.
Try this: KS-KD-9S-6C-4C-8C-7H-6S-9C-JS-KS-QH+JS-10H+9S-KD-Q S-4S-3C-JC-10D+9C-KC-5H-4S-KH-JD-4H-5S-KH-6C-5D-8D -JH-6C+5D-7C-10S-9H+8C+7H-8S-QC-QD+JC+10D and done.
Grtz, Wim |
Kay Medley (Kate)
New Solitaire Player
Username: Kate
Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 9:24 pm: | |
Please tell me how to solve #1984587391. Thank you for your help.
Gratefully
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paul forsdick (Pondpaul)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Pondpaul
Post Number: 399
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 6:44 am: | |
Hello Kate
This game shows up as being impossible like game 11982 so there does not be appear to be any way to win this one.
Paul
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Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 409
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 07, 2008 - 11:32 pm: | |
Richard, My Mom is stumped by FC #240374497. She says "E-mail that nice boy in Scotland for some help". Obviously she doesn't know you as well as I do! |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1388
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 11:16 am: | |
Been out all day. Will try the other game soon. Your mother is clearly an excellent judge of character. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 472
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 05, 2008 - 7:46 pm: | |
Richard, how about giving my Mom a going away present? Try Freecell #819163968 |
Patricia Traynier (Trisha)
Advanced Solitaire Player
Username: Trisha
Post Number: 57
Registered: 3-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 4:14 am: | |
Not Richard, but here is the solution to # 819163968. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1563
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 4:46 am: | |
Thanks Trisha. I won't be able to fritter away any time on this one now. Guess I'll just HAVE to do some gardening instead!.Yeah! Let's hear it for digging and weeding!
Perhaps I'll see if I can win it some other way. Sounds good to me. Hope it starts raining. |
Ken Millar (Tpa_ken)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Tpa_ken
Post Number: 473
Registered: 2-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 5:55 am: | |
As George M Cohan would say, "I thank you. My mother thanks you, and my father thanks you." (I'm a Yankee, and Richard's a Dandy. So does that make Mike a Doodle?) |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1564
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 6:16 am: | |
Don't worry Mike, I'm sure that was a typo. Ken almost certainly meant Poodle. And no, that was not intended to be an oblique swipe as your good lady. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1565
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 6:19 am: | |
As a Doodle, you could be Badly Drawn Boy. It's VERY sad that I should even have heard of him. |
Richard Mechen (Richardscotland)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Richardscotland
Post Number: 1566
Registered: 9-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 6:52 am: | |
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 9:24 pm: Freecell #1984587391
It appears in the following post that Paul says that this is on the "unwinnable" list. Or have I just misunderstood something?
Solution attached!
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Mike Butler (Butler77)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Butler77
Post Number: 439
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 1:15 pm: | |
I forget. Are the game numbers for PGS Freecell the same as the Microsoft numbers for the same hands? |
Gregg Seelhoff (Seelhoff)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Seelhoff
Post Number: 301
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 1:30 pm: | |
>Are the game numbers for PGS Freecell the same as the Microsoft numbers for the same hands?
Yes, they are.
At least, they are the same through deal #1000000, which is as high as Microsoft goes. 
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Mike Butler (Butler77)
Master Solitaire Player
Username: Butler77
Post Number: 440
Registered: 4-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 4:09 pm: | |
Thanks Gregg. I thought the answer had been posted before but I wasn't sure. |
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